July 14, 2002
Warriors and Warlords IX
In attendance: HSH Kitadate-denka (Neil Gilmore), HSH Elashava bas Riva
(Susan Gilbert), HE Robert Thunderous (Mathew Wanat) Lord Heir
HE Isabella Falcao da Galinha (Kimberli Wanat) Lady Heir Northshield, THL
Lewina of Sussex (Lauretta Wenger) Principality Seneschal, Lord Alasdair
Calum Montgomery (Jack Welsh) Polaris Herald, Vladimir Volcovich
Syehvrnielesov (Harry Kahan) Principality Earl Marshal, Lady Eleanor
du Coeur (Beth Hart-Carlock) Principality Chirurgeon, THL Gweniver Kenwyn
Roseveth (Jennifer McNitt) Principality Exchequer, Mistress Liadan na
Caimron (Barbara England) Principality MOA&S.
Minutes by Lord Fiskr Hamondson (Jon Larsen), Stallari Council Secretary.
Minutes - Silfren Mere minutes of 6/1/2002 - approved as written.
1. Old Business
A. Armorgeddon – There will be no bid to make Armorgeddon a Principality
event this year.
B. Quest – Mistress Liadan, acting as autocrat of Quest IV Camelot,
presented Stallari with a check for $1400.00 representing Northshield’s
2. New Business
A. Officer Approval Process – Stallari Officers that will be in office as
Northshield makes the transition to Kingdom will need approval from both
Curia and BOD, therefore they should apply to both. This is a policy
and should be published for the knowledge of prospective Stallari
Current Stallari officers should submit their applications to BOD when BOD
starts considering Northshield’s Kingdom bid. This process should start
the new Principality Seneschal submitting an application to BOD at
Future Stallari officer applications will be forwarded to kingdom and BOD
simultaneously after Stallari approval.
B. Calendar Secretary – The deadline for applications is August 15, and
published in the July Northwatch. A decision will be made at the Stallari
meeting at Armorgeddon.
C. Publication officer – There have been interested inquiries from two
gentles, but no formal applications have been submitted yet. The job
includes inventory control, budgeting, production of sales items and
obtaining copyrights for articles used in the “Well Versed” issues. Since
this office is a deputy to the Exchequer, THL Gweniver Kenwyn of Roseveth
was asked to write up a formal job description. The office deals with
publications only. Decals, etc. should be not be handled by this office.
inquiries should be pursued to try and fill the office by Coronet.
4. Keg report
A. There were over 100 in attendance at the WW breakfast meeting. There
will be populace feedback until August 9, then the tightening process
begins. The current versions of the KEG documents are for comment, not
A. The royal progress was discussed. It looks good, with excellent support
from the participating groups.
B. There will be a Curia meeting at Pennsic.
A. Coronets- it has long been the intent to ask for reimbursement for the
new coronets, but they arrived early before discussion could happen. LLH
willing to pay the total amount out-of-pocket if necessary. Once
is a Kingdom, heirs coronets can be silver. LLH asked for $150 to Her
Duchess Caitlin Stuart for the material cost for 4 coronets. Moved and
B. WW went well. Waterbearers need more recognition, they did a great
Discussion we held on a waterbearer’s fund and possible deputies for
Mistress Margaret Malise.
A. List maintenance - There is a need to increase the accuracy of the
various officer lists. This will be coordinated through Master Owen.
B. Vilku Urvas submitted the paperwork for advancement from
to incipient status.
A. Report - See attached. Questioned the budget for the Chirurgeon office
which is half what the other offices get. It was agreed that greater
expenses need to be better tracked and possibly adjusting budgets
B. A worksheet is available showing donations by group.
C. Discussed CD rates over current interest rates that we are getting. No
D. Tor Aerie – The police are investigating an alleged embezzlement
involving approximately $2000.00 with the cooperation of the College of
Aerie and the Barony of Nordskogen
E. Kingdom regalia – The question was asked about when to let bids for
Kingdom regalia. The consensus is that this topic is premature before
receiving the poll and questionnaire results.
A. New Format – There has been almost no feedback. The new format is
to read and cheaper to make. We have permission for a PDF format for
subscriptions which can be emailed to subscribers. A password protected
website is not allowed, neither is total electronic delivery. There must
a hardcopy alternative.
B. Webminister – The only formal application was from Lady Bettina von
Hasenfeld, an award winner for web design. This application was approved.
was decided to change officers in October at Coronet. Marisela will
C. Report - Subscriptions to the Northwatch are increasing.
A. Report – It is the hardest getting reports from older marshals. Only
groups missed sending in reports. Event reporting is getting better too.
B. A new marshal exam was written by Sir Tristan and given to three MIT’s
who failed, even though it is an open book test. Is there a problem with
MIT system? Is a mentoring program needed? An extra effort is needed to
encourage the wearing of marshal tabards. Do we need separate MIT tabards?
It was agreed to push harder for the proper use of tabards and marshal
A. Report – Group reporting is pitiful. Society would eventually like to
see us doing internal as well as external submissions. Currently there is
three month wait for internal commenting. Can the submissions officer find
and return the submission for obvious problems without the long process?
Yes, and work is being done on revising the policy. We are still waiting
designs for aegis. Keg questionnaire returns suggest that current award
structures be kept as we go kingdom. See keg packet.
A. Report – There are good reporting percentages, and the numbers are
improving. No major problems reported. Electronic reporting is popular.
There were two snail mail responses, the rest were electronic.
a. There are nineteen warranted chirurgeons with a few apprentices soon to
swell the ranks. No major problems at WW!!
Next meeting – Armorgeddon.